He Was There on 9/11. Then He Started Asking Questions

The Kim Iversen Show LIVE | September 10, 2026 On the eve of the 9/11 twenty-fifth anniversary, Kim sits down with Richard Grove — a man who worked on the 96th floor of the North Tower, was fired weeks before the attacks for asking uncomfortable questions about billing irregularities at Marsh & McLennan, and has spent the two decades since building one of the most detailed forensic maps of what was actually happening in and around the World Trade Center. He was driving down the West Side Highway in a convertible on the morning of September 11th when he saw the first tower burning. He witnessed synchronized flashes at World Trade Center Six as the second tower exploded, and drove out of the city with questions that have never been answered. Richard walks Kim through the corporate and financial architecture underneath the official story: Marsh & McLennan and AIG’s interlocking management, the Greenberg family’s ties to both companies and Central Intelligence, AIG’s founding by OSS operative C.V. Starr in Shanghai in the wake of the Sassoon opium syndicate, Kroll Associates running World Trade Center security, the insider trading put options nobody has ever explained, and why Elliott Spitzer’s fraud investigation into Marsh and AIG went nowhere. From there the conversation opens into the longer history Richard has spent twenty-five years mapping: the Boston Brahmin opium families, the East India Company’s role in funding Yale and installing Skull and Bones in 1832, the Cecil Rhodes conspiracy to bring America back into the British Empire, the Rothschild-Sassoon banking and opium convergence, Wall Street’s financing of the Nazis, and how the Yale Institute of Human Relations’ frustration-aggression research became the blueprint for social control. Richard also talks about the antidote: his University of Reason courses teaching adults critical thinking, logical law, high-value skills and entrepreneurism — because, as he puts it, you can’t fix anything from a place of black-pilled despair. The same night this episode airs, Richard is speaking at the Turning the Tide 9/11 25th Anniversary Conference in New York City alongside Roger Waters, Dennis Kucinich, and Lieutenant Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski.

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