Matt Kibbe sits down with blues guitarist Tommy Z to talk about the hazards of living in a blue state, with a governor bent on destroying the live music industry and stoking public fears. Being a musician in the time of COVID is hard, especially when you’re a freedom-loving Ron Paul acolyte trying to promote a new record. Tommy Z’s album “Plug In and Play” will be released on May 28, and you can listen to it as long as Andrew Cuomo doesn’t make it illegal.

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Kibbe on Liberty is a weekly podcast with libertarian author, economist, and community organizer Matt Kibbe. As the president of Free the People, Kibbe has decades of experience in the libertarian political sphere, but in these troubled times he believes that open dialogue is needed to bring people together. This means being willing to talk, and especially listen, to those with whom we might not always agree, trying to understand perspectives that might otherwise be foreign to us.

Kibbe on Liberty’s growing roster of guests includes politicians, economists, comedians, writers, radio personalities, activists, journalists, and even a magician or two—with topics of conversation ranging from current affairs to craft beer and the Grateful Dead. So grab a cold one, and settle in for the next hour of Kibbe on Liberty, mostly honest conversations with mostly interesting people.